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> European Union ministers today admitted that a giant EU-US trade deal is dead in its current form, with drastic change needed to salvage any hope of a deal going ahead.

The devil, as always, is in the fine print - a cynic might read that to mean "TTIP has gotten such a bad reputation we would rather wait a few more years so the public forgets all about it, then try again."

In fact, I am tempted to quote Lovecraft here, except that a few years hardly count as "eternal".

๐Ÿ‘คkrylon๐Ÿ•‘9y๐Ÿ”ผ0๐Ÿ—จ๏ธ0

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There is nothing wrong about trade deals per se.

I am not against any trade deals, but against this particular deal with those particular conditions because of some particular reasons.

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They have realized that multinational corporations can screw the citizens of the EU just as well through CETA, which is about to get ratified on October 27.
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They will just change the name to something else, change a few words and voila, a new secret trade agreement.
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Offtopic, but does anyone else find Lovecraft too over-the-top? I know that many people like him, but it gets tiresome that everything is nameless, frightful, indescribable, hideous, hellish, monstrous, indescribable, etc. He's not very subtle at all with his descriptions, even a house that was previously established as super creepy gets an "abominable" when referring to it.

I found him so over the top that I wanted to confirm my hunch experimentally, and made a list of the 150 most prominent words in his opus. It is unsurprising:

https://i.imgur.com/pUUzFCJ.png

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An optimist might read that to mean "Europeans found out that trade deals can be a lot better than what TTIP offered. Such as CETA which the EU is about to close with Canada".
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The name escapes me for a moment but they're already working on a new secret deal. (Since 2012, so that's why they're so easily letting go of TTIP.)
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The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, said someone pretty famous on one side of the Atlantic.
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Well, thats what happened to ACTA too, isn't it?

A lot of the stuff that was in there got reused in TTIP.

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