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Honestly, I cannot help but get frustrated even though I know I shouldn't. How are people rooting against this person? Do they not want space exploration/green technology/incredible cars/transportation innovation/globally accessible satellite internet/self driving cars/etc?

I don't even really understand where the hate comes from, because he missed a few deadlines, because he dreams big? I'm sure his critics have missed more than a few deadlines, and on things not nearly as important/world changing.

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The issues is not that we don't want these things. People cheer for NASA and you hardly ever read anything negative about those missions.

Elon is why people complain. He rubs a lot of people the wrong way with this tweets and attitude. You can be diplomatic and move things forward or you can be abrasive like Elon and also move forward.

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I think they're rooting against him because he's been, frankly, extremely rude and petty in public to people that don't seem to deserve it. It's one thing for a celebrity to "feud" with another celebrity, it's another thing entirely when they do so to essentially anonymous people just trying to do their jobs (specifically, the well known investor call stuff, and also that cave diver).
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No one here seems to be rooting against Elon. They're pointing out that digging tunnels under a city involves more than technological innovation.
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I think a lot of the frustration is that all this tunneling stuff seems like a huge distraction from what we KNOW works.

Mixed use development near transit supplemented by a network of bike lanes an 8 or 80 year old would feel safe cycling on.

Tunnels aren't magic. Does anyone here think they won't succumb to induced demand just like any other road? Even if they reduce congestion (and they won't - the 405 carpool lane made commutes a minute longer, not shorter) all that means is people who want more space move farther from the city, enabling more urban sprawl, and thereby trashing the planet even more.

Quick, cheap tunneling would be GREAT for building subways, though. Shame Elon hates public transport https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-awkward-dislike-mass-t...

The other thing about Elon is that one wonders how many clever people are toiling away on solving the world's problems but can't get attention/funding/support because Elon sucks it all up, AND he's dangerously close to going full Kanye on Twitter (cave rescuers are pedophiles? wtf?), which doesn't help anything.

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Most people are afraid of change and don't confront their internal fears rather externalize it.
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The "hate" you speak of occurs on online comment sections only, and is likely a reaction to the sometimes cult-like devotion professed by his admirers.

This devotion is also fueled by Musk himself, who invests in positive PR (just look at any submission from Elektrek on this forum) and pretends to be a nerdy everyman on Twitter to appear to be "relatable".

Perhaps to his admirers, it seems like he's"just trying to help" when he proposes submarines for the Thai cave rescue. To outside observers, it looks like a cynical attempt to capitalize on the publicity around the rescue efforts for free. It's gauche when a normal person does it, and becomes in extremely poor taste when a billionaire with real resources does it.

Comments of the "He's trying to save the world, can't you see?" variety mix freely with the "this is a conspiracy against Tesla by big auto/big oil" comments that pop up anytime bad news is reported.

At the end of the day, neither Elon nor Tesla are hurting because of online comments.

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If he keeps being so reckless, he risks messing up all of those great things.
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