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Milk costs about $3.50 per gallon in the USA.

If approximately 73% of the milk price is subsidized, that is about $12.96. Also, oil is heavily subsidized, which is the main cost of plastic bottled milk dispatched by oil using trucks.

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That'd still assume cows, land and labor are free. Which I'll just go ahead and say is probably an invalid assumption :)

And if you read the actual data[1], you'll realize that 73% of the returns come through subsidies. Or $0.35(cdn)/liter, so ~$1.40/gallon.

Really, that energy/water consumption number in the OP is bogus. There's no way around that. It doesn't mean that milk is particularly environmentally friendly, but neither is it anywhere near as devastating as OP made it out to be.

[1] https://www.realagriculture.com/2018/02/u-s-dairy-subsidies-...

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Wow, in Australia itโ€™s about 1 AUD or 70c USD per litre. So about the same price, but no subsidies as far as I know.

That said we recently had to fund raise for farmers due to too dry weather and supermarkets increased the price a little bit explicitly to help them out.

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No, thatโ€™s not how oil subsidies work. Plastics arenโ€™t receiving extra discounts below the market oil rates.

The subsidies they received are baked into the current market prices you see for a barrel of oil.

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Milk costs about $3.50 per gallon in the USA.

Milk prices vary wildly from market to market in the U.S.

Where I live, where cows are rare, it's $2.39/gallon. In greener regions nearby it's closer to $1.89/gallon.

When I lived in Ohio, the hypermarkets always had it for 99ยข/gallon as a loss-leader.

I can only assume that $3.50/gallon is normal for... San Francisco, maybe? Or if you're buying organic, free-range, ultra-filtered, sustainable milk.

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