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It is a nice piece of technology. It is a 60Ghz millimeter-wave radar. It is a privacy nightmare. It is already shipped.

Radar uses electromagnetic waves (like Wifi but higher frequency) so it can go through walls, and even typical range for gesture recognition is less than meter, It probably can go at least 10 times as far by boosting the gain of the amplifier, it is not constrained like a theremin would be because it is already working in the far field region of the antenna.

Because it work at such high frequency (but not so high that it can still go through walls), it has many very small antennas arrays, and sense sub millimeter movements even from far away. It also has beam-forming capabilities, meaning it can focus the direction in which to sense. Because it is radar, things which moves are of interests and are filtered easily from the background.

Typically this piece of technology already can or will soon be able to : sense how many humans are around it, where they are, how fast they breath, how fast the heart is pulsating, who they are by computing some heart-base ID.

It is low-power and always-on, 360ยฐ with focus-able attention. It is cheap because it can be made on a chip. (Edit: fixing typos)

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> 60Ghz millimiter-wave radar

> so it can go through walls

60 GHz RF doesn't really pass through anything, which is the entire reason that the frequency is used for radar. A radar needs powerful reflections to detect things. Penetration impedes its operation, and would be akin to a camera that is out of focus.

I'm also unsure if the resolution of this chip is noteworthy.

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> In the case of Pixel 4, the model runs on device, never sends sensor data to Google servers, and helps it interpret the motion to Quick Gestures.

From the "Technology" page linked at the top.

Personally, I don't see how it is meaningfully any worse for privacy than the always on microphone in the google assistant. And I look forward to what it will enable for VR and AR tech!

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Not that I don't believe you, but I would like to see some sources on some of these claims you're making...
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Given that it's always-on, I wonder how much it interferes with 802.11ad (WiGig) which also uses 60 GHz.
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Are you sure? 60Ghz is used for low latency video streaming and doesn't penetrate anything.
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I should start a business. Faraday Sleeves.

... and of course it exists. Only $90: https://silent-pocket.com/products/faraday-cage-phone-sleeve

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Time to make a theremin app!
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And once you add in MicroExpression comprehension (https://www.paulekman.com/resources/micro-expressions/), and voice audio analysis and you've got a real working, portable lie detector.

That will be, um, interesting.

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It seems like they need some humans to tweak their algos, by playing a game no less:

>* Headed South is an experience that introduces Pixelโ€™s new touchless interface to users in a playful and engaging way. Through your journey, learn, practice and master the use of Motion Sense gestures to gather a flock of birds and fly South to escape the storm.

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