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So to summerize what they have announced (so far) -

* A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge?

* A new start menu design

* Windows have rounded corners

* Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app)

* New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved speech recognition

* New haptics when a stylus is used

* Teams integrated into Windows

* Support for Android apps built into the OS (using Intel Bridge technology whatever that is?). Apparently this works via the Amazon App Store although I am not sure what this actually means in a practical sense?

* A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account)

* Improved windows snapping with a dynamic (based on your screen(s) size and layout) UI built into the maximize button

* DirectX 12 improvements (unsure if limited to Windows 11 only?)

* Auto HDR for games

* Improved experience when switching between tablet and desktop modes

* Apparently there will be "Windows 11 ready" PCs for sale "today"?

* Microsoft say they have been working with AMD, Intel and Qualcomm to optimise the silicon for Windows 11

* 40% smaller Windows Updates

* TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all?

* A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup

* 64-bit processor required (no 32-bit build at all?)

* There is a universal mute button in the system tray so you can mute yourself system wide rather than in the app

Probably some other things I have missed

πŸ‘€satysinπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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>* A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup

I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

πŸ‘€AerroonπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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  - Windows have rounded corners
  - Teams integrated into Windows
  - A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears   this will require you login with a Microsoft Account)
  - A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup
No thank you
πŸ‘€dean177πŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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IMHO, The main things of interest are the 40% smaller Windows Updates, TPM 2.0 requirement and Microsoft account requirement.

* Windows Updates need to be solved even more comprehensively (get rid of winsxs or use smaller backing, adopt sane file locking so that reboots are less required, etc.). Still any improvement can justify a new version by itself.

* Per wiki, TPM 2.0 was released in 2019. 2019 wasn't that long ago. Does that mean older computers will be unable to run W11? Many more computers will end up running Linux eventually.

* The account requirement is unfortunately. Really, MS didn't get enough users using the old method?

πŸ‘€yyykπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup

Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

πŸ‘€silicon2401πŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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>40% smaller Windows Updates

Was there anything about faster updates?

Why does the Windows Update service take 50%+ of my CPU and multiple minutes to figure out if there's any updates available for me?

I get Windows doesn't have a package manager, but given yum and deb can figure out the answer in seconds... there has to be some way to improve that.

πŸ‘€xxporπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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> A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge?

This is confirmed on the Windows 11 specification site:

> Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

πŸ‘€sorenjanπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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I work on displays, AutoHDR and DX12 changes are coming to 10 as well (unsure about win7 or dx12on11).
πŸ‘€zeuskπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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they are integrating teams, onedrive, office, microsoft 365 stuff directly into windows 11. Doesn't that spark anti-trust concerns? Think about Microsoft was fined for anti-trust for integrating internet explorer into windows and making it the default. Looks like every platform holder is just using the dominance of their platform to push their other stuff.
πŸ‘€russli1993πŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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> * Support for Android apps built into the OS (using Intel Bridge technology whatever that is?).

Straight copy pasta from https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-...

> Intel Bridge Technology is a runtime post-compiler that enables applications to run natively on x86-based devices, including running those applications on Windows. Intel’s multi-architecture XPU strategy provides the right engines for the right workloads by integrating leading CPU cores, graphics technology, artificial intelligence accelerators, image processors and more, in a single, verified solution.

looks like a JIT recompiler to me

πŸ‘€feiknameπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup

If that's the case, I guess Windows 10 is the last Windows version I will use on my machines.

πŸ‘€celsoazevedoπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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Do you have a citation for this?

> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup

I saw a video of Linus tech tips taking the leaked demo for a spin, and it looked like there was an option to use it with a local only account: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odZSCdNTFPw&t=305s

πŸ‘€cdriniπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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> * TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all?

This is a dealbreaker for me, guess I won't be upgrading and will use linux most of the time instead of half of the time going forward

πŸ‘€michaelbraveπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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> lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge?

I didn’t watch the video, and your question mark gives me hope: Was this actually said? A horizontal taskbar would be horrible.

πŸ‘€SemaphorπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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> * Support for Android apps built into the OS (using Intel Bridge technology whatever that is?)

Interesting, why would they do that? I mean it's nice ;) but, is this the new MS mobile strategy? Android?

πŸ‘€aikahπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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> * TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all?

Couldn’t you use Clover? OS X doesn’t have BIOS compatibility either, which is a major reason Clover exists.

πŸ‘€WowfunhappyπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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The only things I wanted on this list and honestly could've lived without are DirectX improvements and 40% smaller windows updates, lol
πŸ‘€citysurroundedπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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Also, Aero is back! Everything looks transparent.
πŸ‘€jptechπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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> * TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all?

Could they try to block Linux installs?

> * There is a universal mute button in the system tray so you can mute yourself system wide rather than in the app

You could always click the speaker and mute it system-wide

πŸ‘€Black101πŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

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CPU requirements are also significantly stiffened up. Intel Core i8 or newer or AMD Ryzen 2 or newer.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min...

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