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> The woman operating the computer explained what I was to do. When she gave me a signal, I needed to look straight at the camera, then turn my head slowly and steadily to the right. I was then to turn at the same speed back to face the camera. Then I had to turn my head fully to the left, and back again to face the camera. At the same slow, steady speed, I was then to tilt my head back and look up, then to look straight at the camera. After that, I had to tilt my head down at the same speed and look toward the floor, and then to return to the original position. Finally, I was to slowly and completely open my mouth and hold that position. After I closed my mouth and looked steadily at the camera, my facial scan would be complete. All of these movements needed to be carried out in the assigned order in a single, uninterrupted sequence, two seconds per position. If any movement did not conform to the requirements, the computer would give a signal and stop running, after which I would have to start over from the beginning.

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> My wife, who had been going through these procedures immediately after me, struggled when she came to the facial scan. The sequences for men and women differed in only one way: While men were required to open their mouths wide at the end, women had to close their mouths tightly and puff out their cheeks. I wondered what the reason was for this difference.

Does anyone know the reason for the difference?

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👤subliminalpanda🕑4y🔼0🗨️0

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I’m always wondering what makes people work for this kind of surveillance apparatus…

In this concrete situation: Are they convinced of the party line that this is “combatting terrorism”, is it a civic duty, simply out of fear, or is this just me being ignorant about Chinese society?

👤cannabis_sam🕑4y🔼0🗨️0

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After visiting Auschwitz, I expected (or maybe hoped) that the world would never let it happen again.

“How could they do this?”, People asked.

“That would never happen today” people murmured.

Yet, here we are. Reading the 15th article about it, while the White House deletes tweets that likely anger the CCP

They should be removed from most favored nation status.

Governments could do a lot more but don’t

👤nomoreplease🕑4y🔼0🗨️0

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So chineese are putting them to camps now, by the book, next will come extermination phase. I be prepared for very very deep concerns about it...
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People like Tahir come to the U.S. and Canada to escape the regime, but also to warn us. We should take heed.
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I hadn't realized that the absolute number in the Xinjiang camps --- "more than 1 million", according to the article --- is half the number of people in US prisons. It's 4% of the population of Xinjiang, compared to less than 1% of the population of the US, but of course it's 0.1% of the population of China as a whole, and there are US communities that are more heavily incarcerated.

The whole situation is appalling, in both countries, though it has not yet reached the extremes of GULAG, the US Civil War, the Great Leap Forward, the Holodomor, the Taiping Rebellion, the Holocaust, the Congo Free State, or the Killing Fields of Kampuchea. What can we do to make this kind of abuse impossible? It seems to me that only state power can create such horrors; how can we prevent it from becoming so unrestrained?

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I'm glad he made it to the US. Of course because it's The Atlantic, they were obligated to implicate the US as a co-conspirator: "Islamophobic discourses that gathered strength in the U.S. have been central to China’s efforts to justify its Xinjiang policies". Yeah, of course it's all really our fault, of course.

Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine.

👤eplanit🕑4y🔼0🗨️0

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This is horrible but I think it's worse than people realize. Because this is the type of thing used to motivate world wars. Where hundreds of millions work hard to murder each other. Maybe try to find another way to stop it.
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Unfortunately it takes forever to load for me on a mobile phone and is pretty unreadable once loaded to the page margins and font size.
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I remember watching video footage of fabricated camps in the Balkan wars made by CNN and BCC in the mid 90s (I forgot the name of the video hosting website that was popular back then), following years of similar articles. Nothing changed really, people are as dumb as they ever were and even easier to manipulate nowadays.

Americans and their allies are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in the Middle East alone in the last twenty years or so, not counting their military orgies since the end of the II. world war. However China bad, Russia bad. Israel kills 66 children in just 4 days. No problem for the US and its allies. China bad. Russia bad.

This sort of media brainwashing will continue until there's nobody sane left to oppose the establishment in their military action against China in the distant future. No proof, no common sense, just..."news". From us, for us. Because nobody else matters. Vietnam fiasco can't happen again.

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