πŸ‘€WuTangCFOπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό77πŸ—¨οΈ133

(Replying to PARENT post)

After years of living for the moment and YOLOing, author felt bad because she was in her 30s and didnt have wealth, then her parents gave her a large lump sum of money and she was able to apply things she learned from financial management books. The end.
πŸ‘€neither_colorπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

I am bad with money. I’m also not abnormal. A 2017 survey by CareerBuilder found that 78 percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, while a 2019 survey by Bankrate found that 60 percent of us couldn’t cover a $1,000 emergency.

For most in this predicament, it has nothing to do with being bad with money. It has everything to do with their income being 80% of their essential bills.

πŸ‘€WarOnPrivacyπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

I'm not a particularly outdoorsy person, but being a frugal person, I have noticed that a lot of outdoors activities really do "require" an investment. Equipment can be expensive, as can ski passes or trips. Once you hang out in those circles (as the article states), you don't want to have cheap gear. It's as with anything, I suppose, but with gear, there's always more and better things, which never interested me.

I remember talking with coworkers about bikes and one was recommend bikes to another coworker who wanted to get into cycling and he was recommending some pricey options. I remember thinking that if you want to get into cycling, you really don't have to spend a lot. Cycling shouldn't be about the gear itself. It should be about, well, getting out there and cycling. But for some people, half the fun is spending money on the toys. That same coworker admitted a few weeks later that he bought himself yet another bike, one that was several thousand dollars. Meanwhile I was stressing with my $1200 bike purchase as that felt like a lot of money.

πŸ‘€allenuπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

IMO problem the author had is she had too much money too early in her career and therefore didn't get thrown in the deep end with regard to using it efficiently.

I'm going to assume she grew up in a fairly successful middle class household based on education and some other details in the articles so it's a pretty safe bet money wasn't something she grew up learning how to use efficiently to "level up" one's life.

She's already starting from a deficit because she's a women of how society emphasizes wealth as an indicator for societal success for men more than women so she's not gonna spend her formative years having people tell her to chase the dollar.

Basically her parents didn't teach her and society didn't make her teach herself so it took her 20yr to figure it out.

πŸ‘€throwaway0a5eπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

I'm a firm believer that everyone should have a skill they can use to support themselves. It doesn't really matter what that is as long as you can't be replaced easily by unskilled labour.

So take the author. She wants to be a ski bum while she's young. I respect that, actually. So the question such people should be asking is: what skill could I gain that is compatible with that?

Example: being a qualified paramedic/EMT. Why? Ski patrols need them. People get hurt skiing. They always will.

I respect the ability to live frugally (as the author did), especially in order to gain experiences. After all, you won't be young forever. You won't be here forever. How much happier will it make you to live in a small house in a sea of suburbia as a billing code administrator for a health insurance company? But hey, at least you have a 401k and dental.

The author has several false dichotomies in here (IMHO). For example, comparing the "dirtbag" lifestyle to the "rich". There's a whole lot in between there.

Also, living paycheck to paycheck is stressful. So is not having options (eg decision fatigue [1]).

Being a journalist is perhaps not the best choice.

The people people live one paycheck away from being destitute varies but usually it's not because they want to be a ski bum. It's generally because they've taken on long term expenses they can barely afford. It's because they've convinced themselves they need to provide certain things for their children and families, often because they didn't have it themselves growing up. Things like paying for their college, living in a massive house and so on.

In providing these material things I so often see people who don't see their children and bring negativity home because they hate their lives. What good does that do anyone?

So many of the decisions people make I find is to have what other people think they should have. Family, neighbours, friends.

I can't help but feel that the author still misses the point.

[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/magazine/do-you-suffer-fr...

πŸ‘€cletusπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

Ignore the click-bait title. This is one woman's coming of age story as she learns to plan for her future; well written and with good self-understanding.
πŸ‘€dougmwneπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

>I have no idea where all my money went.

I can so relate to that.

Fortunately my natural instincts appear to leave me with cash at end of month which I move to savings...but that is about the extent of my control over things.

πŸ‘€HavocπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

>But these are just the flashes through the fog, clues to an unpleasant memory I’ve blocked out. Because when I think too hard about the truth, it hurts my head: I have no idea where all my money went.

Just look at your bank account and credit card statements? First step in managing your money, is evaluating how you're spending it.

πŸ‘€whiskyantπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

It's all about finding a balance. I'm outdoorsy and have more money than I know what to do with.

Keep the career, keep investing and keep exploring.

You don't need to quit your job, just make sure its one the does allow flexibility. If its just not working out you may need to suck it up to get a decent job title that will let you jump across to a company that allows you more flexibility. A 2-5 year endeavour but definitely possible.

Outdoorsy gear is expensive, no. Overpriced. Don't buy new. Seriously learn to DIY a bit and repair things. It's easier than you think and a source of accomplishment comes with it.

Finally you don't need years off. Long breaks scattered is much better. If you found the right job you'll actually miss it while away, then miss going outdoors while on the job. Absence should make the heart grow fonder for either part of your life.

πŸ‘€jaimex2πŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

Arm chair psychologist for a second, but this sounds like issues with self control and commitment. Plently of outdoorsy people exist and do interesting things without throwing everything a way with reckless spending.
πŸ‘€tayo42πŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

    In a 2014 study, he found that 58 percent of affluent people are first-generation wealth, not trust-fund babies.

I've heard that idea before, that the notion of inherited unearned wealth as explaining the bulk of the wealthy population is actually misleading. Same thing was said in that old book The Millionaire Mind I think.
πŸ‘€jxramosπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

Anyone have money but not enough Time? I see MMM for FIRE, but I'm looking for something time related. I suppose something like Efficiency Is Everything but more extreme like MMM, but for time.

Maybe I just need to save a bit more and retire. I just love my job and having coworkers, I don't want to give up the 40hr/week job.

πŸ‘€deregulateMedπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

> How was I ever going to afford a kid’s college fund? How was I ever going to afford a kid’s college fund?

Uh, lady, you’re 37 years old. If you seriously want a kid, you need to approach finding a spouse with the same seriousness and intention you (admirably) now approach finances. Otherwise, it ain’t gonna happen.

But I guess that’s another article.

πŸ‘€monoideismπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

I couldn't relate less to this person.
πŸ‘€mjflπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

,,What if there was a better way? What if we could normalize using rich-people tactics to continue living happily as if we were broke?''

I'm rich _because_ I lived my 20s like I was broke. I went to the other extreme than the author, which is also unhealthy though, finding the balance is just hard.

πŸ‘€xiphias2πŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

Why people suck at money? Due to socialist brainwashing in the university.
πŸ‘€rockclimberπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

The answer to the headline is, of course, because almost everyone sucks at money.
πŸ‘€alisonkiskπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

why people with no money so bad at having no money.

probably lazy and dumb, yeah, that's it.

i feel better already.

πŸ‘€pope_meatπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0

(Replying to PARENT post)

If you love nature leave nature alone.

1. People hike somewhere

2. A positive review is written, that attracts more people

3. Because of the increased amount of people going to certain place, a hotel and a restaurant is built.

4. Restaurant workers and hotel workers need a place to live, so they build houses.

5. Houses need a power plant, water, trash service... police stations, fire stations, healthcare.

6. Nature is now gone.

7. The guy in living next to the formerly popular outdoor spot feels like having fun in the outdoors. The cycle is repeated until all outdoor spots are gone.

πŸ‘€29athrowawayπŸ•‘4yπŸ”Ό0πŸ—¨οΈ0