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The biggest regret I have as someone who has been on phone contracts for years is that it is very prohibitive to experiment with different phones. If we treated phones more like computers, we could have more than one phone at a time. When you're on a contract with a locked phone, it's really difficult to experiment with different phones in any meaningful way.
That doesn't mean I would be buying new phones all the time. Perhaps I get used ones off of Ebay, and I probably only buy a new phone every two years or so. Phones are starting to hit an inflection point where they will run well beyond two years.
If we can get better unlocked options in this country with data and voice plans that are priced better, geeks like us can experiment with different phones and OSes. I use OS X and Windows every week (and Chrome OS, but that depends on the week).
I hardly ever use Android, Windows Phone or Blackberry OS. And I think that's a shame.
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As a bonus, we all got unlocked phones with Wifi tethering (free) and better data service. Keep in mind though, T-mobile signal might suck for your location.
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AT&T has told me that "standard" rates for international roaming in Asia is $2.50/minute (!!) and even the biggest package they have only brings it down to $1.50. It's completely insane. Plus you need to purchase voice roaming, data roaming, and text roaming all separately. Believe it or not, it will actually be slightly cheaper to cancel my AT&T plan, pay the cancellation fee, and switch to TMobile than it would be to purchase all of their punitive roaming services.
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That's because you haven't actually had to start using T-Mobile's horrendous service. When I tried to do this (admittedly a couple years ago) they told me with a straight face, after I had gone through all the effort of changing "You can't use data on your smartphone because you didn't get it from us." Why would I have changed over if I couldn't use data!?!? (It would have been edge or something ridiculous as well, as only people on certain contracts could use 3g!)
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Also, the only company to actually reduce their price plans to account for not subsidizing their phones is T-Mobile and I figure they're going to get more customers as people start to realize the upgrades from AT&T and Verizon are a total crime.
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So anyway, he's sacrificing network speed to save money, but won't sacrifice upgrades, which seems illogical. Also he writes off skipping upgrades while on a decent network, because he says that is costing him money for free, but it still saves him the cost of the upgrade handset itself, typically $200 for a premium phone. He would be stuck paying the increased amount no matter what on the only good network options there are right now, so it doesn't matter. Saving 200 is saving 200.
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In the UK you have the well-known "Sim-Only" and "Rolling Month" contracts, which are almost, not like contracts in the traditional sense given you can cancel any time.
my Sim-Only contract that last's for 12 months is Β£15/m I paid Β£750 or so for the iPhone 5s with 64GB of space which is: Β£31 (over 2 years) Β£46 total a month for two years.
a contract with my provider for my phone is: Β£99 upfront cost. Β£51 a month (over 24 months).
so, I'd be paying Β£5 for the privilege of _not_ having cash in hand for my phone.
there are other downsides; like requiring carrier support instead of apple support, which, honestly makes a large difference to how you're treated.
although the UK is under EU jurisdiction about the locking of mobile phones so, it's now prohibited.
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Given:
-A phone is designed to physically break in 2 years (with or without contract)
-A cellular contract last 2 years
-Purchase cost of a new unlocked, contract-free iPhone 16g 5c is $600 after taxes
-Purchase cost of a new locked, contractual iPhone 16g 5c is $120 after taxes
-Monthly bill for iPhone contract is around $100 after taxes(unlimited everything)
-Monthly bill for iPhone without contract is $60 after taxes(unlimited everything)
Total cost of contractual iPhone over 2 Year period:
100+10024=2500
600+5024=1800
((2500-1800)/2500)*100 = 28% more for contract. Factor in the cost-benefit of peripherals you receive with a contract or non-contract phone and make your decision.
Done.
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The abysmal world of mobile phone carriers seems to be making some good improvements.
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I do Straight Talk SIM with an iPhone 4 on AT&T's network and the only problem I've had is no media messaging, which is not a huge deal. Also, iMessage is great for that. If you care about MMS, buy a phone from Straight Talk directly. The iPhone on Straight Talk is on the Verizon network, but since it's a VZW phone, you can use SIM as well.
Straight Talk SIM now supports LTE on AT&T if you want to go that route.
The point is, for phone service, you don't need to spend more than $45 a month and off contract phones can be had for $400 or less for top end phones (like iPhone 5 or Galaxy S3). If you don't want data, you can drop down to $25 a month or less.
There is no reason to be on contract, it no longer makes financial sense.